Page 14/The Battalion/Friday, March 4, 1988 ELI Changes (Continued from page 1) dial training is — one, it shouldn’t cost them an arm and a leg; and two, it should be taught within the University where normal University evaluations and performance requirements are expected and It should be more di rected toward what they’re actually going to be doing.” Anderson says this is one solution that he will be con sidering. Another major problem that Young and his col leagues have pointed out with A&M’s proficiency sys tem is its inflexibility. They think incoming interna tional students should be evaluated on a more case-by- case basis and that the department head and faculty ad viser should be involved in that process. Anderson agrees with this recommendation. “I think we should involve faculty and administrators in departments and colleges that play such a critical role in bringing graduate students to our campus and vital role in planning the studies and research experience of our graduate students,” Anderson says. “I believe the earlier in the process that the involvement of these peo ple can be brought to bear, the greater is the likelihood that proper attention will be given to the English lan guage training that each of them might require.” Anderson says he plans to begin formulating a new “concept and procedure” right away. “I’m in the process now,” he says, “of constructing a procedure for discussion purposes that is responsive to the many complaints of faculty and graduate students that have been brought to me. “I plan to have this concept and procedure in a form complete enough for full discussion and comment by the end of March. I hope that we can adopt an im proved concept and begin to implement new and im proved procedures before the arrival of new graduate students this fall.” (Continued from page 1) within the system but that the ELI it self is not the problem. “The problem with the ELI is not with the ELI itself,” Colegrove said at a recent meeting of the Faculty Senate. “The problem with the ELI is how it is implemented.” Colegrove said later that financial concerns appear to be a main point of controversy. “When you are looking at the ELI in particular, I think you will find that they are doing their job,” he said. “The problem, and what has everybody irked among the stu dents, is the fact that it can cost a great deal. It’s very expensive to go to the ELL It’s extremely expensi ve.” Deanna Wormuth, coordinator of the ELI, agrees with Colegrove that the ELI is the symbol rather than the source of the problem. “We are identified as being the source of the entire problem,” she says, “whereas, in fact, many of these decisions are not made by us or car ried out by us. But we’re kind of the visible one because this is where the student is asked to come, so we be come the source.” Wormuth says the reason for the cost of ELI courses is the fact that the ELI receives no funds from the state or the University, although it does use University facilities. She says she is aware that many foreign students take a hostile atti tude toward the ELI and says that at titude has a “very definite impact” on the effectiveness of the program. “Learning a language is very much related to one’s attitude to ward what one is doing,” Wormuth says. “And when a student ap proaches it and says ‘I don’t need it, this is a waste of my time, I’m going to invest my energies in other areas,’ then the student’s not successful. You have to be somewhat commit ted.” Wormuth also says that if students weren’t so caught up in time con straints, they would realize the value of the ELI program. “The bottom line is it costs them money and time,” Wormuth says. “Those are the two issues. I think if students were asked if they felt a need for additional help in English, they would agree they need it. But they are concerned with the pres sures of fulfilling a degree within a certain amount of time. TIjey are also concerned with the cost of doing this. “Upon entry it appears that it takes your time; upon reflection at exit, it may have been the mech anism that allowed you to finish up in the time that you did.” Stavi Hapzo Polous, a Ph.D. stu dent in biomedical engineering from Greece, agrees with Wormuth’s com ments. He says he was somewhat re sentful when he found out he would have to take a composition course at the ELI after getting a bachelor’s de gree at the University of Southern California. But he says that once he got into the program, he realized the value of good communication skills and appreciated the efforts that Wormuth and her staff made to help him. But Ry Young, a tenured profes sor of biochemistry who is outspo ken against the ELI system, says the ELI itself is a major part of the prob lem. “I don’t believe the ELI accom plishes what is needed,” Young says. “I don’t yet have hard data. But an ecdotally — which means just talking to a large number of foreign stu dents — I have yet to find any of them, in fact I think it’s fair to say I’ve never found a single one . . . who told me that they thought they got their money’s worth out of ELL” Young is secretary of the Council of Principal Investigators, an organi zation of research faculty that has been investigating the ELI system for more than a year. During that time, council members met more than once with Wormuth and other A&M administrators, but Young said they never received solid evi dence that the ELI accomplishes its objectives. “We were not shown any convinc ing data, other than arbitrary eval uation, that the students actually gained anything from the ELI,” Young said. “I’m sure if you forced them to write a lot of sentences and listen to a lot of expositions that they’re going to get better at it, there’s no doubt about that. But they’re also apt to do that in a labo ratory and in the University. “The students, after spending 6' months or a year in the ELI, they are now better at English, no doubt about it. But the question is ‘Did they get better at English because of the ELI, or did they get better at English because they’ve been here a year and been required to speak English all the time?’ “I don’t know whether either one of those is true, but I guess I funda mentally believe the foreign students when they tell me that they consider the ELI a rip-off. “I think the only difference in these students, as far as I can tell, af ter ELI is they’re a lot poorer and more cynical about the America system.” Young says he takes a moreradi cal stance then his colleagues in tti CPI. I n their conclusions, publishes in a February newsletter, CPI meit bers called their findings “distm bing” and said they oppose A&M current English proficiency system Young says he wants the ELItoh abolished. “I’d like to see the ELI abolish# just totally abolished,” he says. “Ni reformed, not anything. 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