IMJON I Volume 61 I Che Battalion COLLEGE STATION, TEXAS THURSDAY, DECEMBER 9 1965 Number 245 SCONA XI keynoters Give Vo, Con Views )n U.S. Policy )m- the p. It’s nly ■ge ne. 10. >y- Stop U. S. Bombings By TOMMY DeFRANK Battalion News Editor Dr. David Wurfel urged Wednesday an tended lull in American bombing of orth Viet Nam as a necessary step to- ard a negotiated settlement in the Viet lam war. The keynote speaker for the eleventh tudent Conference on National Affairs intended a halt in the bombings might mvince the North Vietnamese the United Itates is willing to negotiate an end to le fighting. “A pause in the bombing may not in ure negotiations,” he explained, “but there no reason to believe expanded bombing ill promote negotiations. "We have eroded the possibility of ful- lling our committment, and if we can ilfill it through a negotiated settlement len that is the right way,” he continued. An associate professor of political sci- ice at the University of Missouri, Wurfel tided that bombing suspected Viet Cong ositions in South Viet Nam is turning le people against American involvement. “Our strategy based on air superiority the most effective weapon conceivable to lienate the population of South Viet Nam Sfainst us,” he said. “The people are continuing to be alienat- Iby atrocities so numerous we cannot face ie facts,” he added. Wurfel also urged that the United tates agree to a policy of self-determina- on for South Viet Nam — even if such ction results in reunification of the coun- 7 under Communist leadership. He contended that free elections would e a necessary step toward upholding the 954 Geneva Agreements. “The Geneva Conference does not in ny way guarantee the independence of outh Viet Nam, nor does it in any way isure the exclusion of the Communists rom South Viet Nam,” he reminded. “It is clear that the independence of outh Viet Nam has been preserved through he deliberate violation of the Geneva igreements.” Wurfel claimed the spirit of the Geneva Agreements has been distorted by the Jnited States to the advantage of our nemies throughout the world. “The American people have been fooled y this twisting, but much of the world as not,” he charged. “Thus our inten- ions in Viet Nam have been widely mis- rusted.” The speaker said our present “predica ment” in South Viet Nam is the result f a failure to heed the advice of the late 'resident John Kennedy. Wurfel said Kennedy realized that “it’s heir war; we can help and send men, but hey have to win it or lose it. “That reasoning is sound because no uerrilla war has ever been put down ef- ectively by foreign troops,” he claimed. Wurfel also said the war in Viet Nam, upposedly designed to protect Southeast sia from Red China, has brought the Chinese into the conflict and caused an Wer-growing possibility” that they will utervene. He questioned the validity of the Amer en involvement in Viet Nam and hinted hat increased intervention will lose seri es face in the eyes of other nations. “Why should we risk our national reput- tion where all facts tend to show that the 'Ommunists will win ?” Wurfel pointed to the strong feelings nationalism in Southeast Asia and said hat Ho Chi Minh is able to rally support or the Communists because he is a promin- ht nationalist figure. ^ “The North Vietnamese see the Viet -ong as being nationalist,” he noted, “and ^plains part of why the Communists are hd have been by far the largest and fcst-organized force in Viet Nam.” , Wurfel also criticized the American in- •stence that South Viet Nam is a bonafide nation. “South Viet Nam cannot be called a ‘ation by any recognized definition be- ause it is only half a nation,” he said. The opening address was attended by 15 delegates from 85 colleges and um- ersities in 15 states, Alaska, Canada and Mexico. End Chinese Dom ination By DANI PRESSWOOD Battalion Staff Writer Dr. Frank N. Trager said Wednesday night the policy of the United States in Viet Nam is to “carry war there as far as necessary to make Hanoi cease and desist” and “to give 16 million people a free and independent government.” Trager, professor of international af fairs at New York University, presented SCONA XFs second keynote address on “U. S. Policy in Southeast Asia (Agree ments and Disagreements).” His speech outlined the viewpoint of United States policy proponents. Trager listed the objectives of the United States in Southeast Asia as: main taining security, improving living condi tions, maintaining internal stability and preventing Communist takeover everywhere except North Viet Nam. “They (Communists) have made the war and we must make them stop,” Trag er declared. “I don’t want to see Viet Nam suffer another 1,000 years of Chinese domination.” He referred to the period from 111 BC to 939 AD when Viet Nam was controlled by China. Trager offered three available choices for the United States in dealing with the Vietnamese situation. The first possibility is that of with drawal. Trager said in that case “I am sure Southeast Asia would succumb to the Communist takeover, and that I oppose in principle.” He described the second possibility, that of remaining advisers, as “killing nobody except ourselves.” This is the policy the United States previously employed. Trager said the third possibility, which is the one he favors and the one the United States has chosen, is “to win, so as to allow Viet Nam independence,” and, he added, “I want what has to be done quickly in order to get the thing over.” Concerning the possibility of negotia tions between the United States and China, Trager noted a basic difference of opinion as to the definition of “negotiate,” and therein lies the problem. “Our notion of negotiating is of some compromise,” he said. “Their notion is of not compromising except to get some thing from you. We will not negotiate anything which will take away from the independence of South Viet Nam.” Trager said for the past 11 years the United States has violated the first rule of warfare, that of relying on offense rather than defense. “We willingly, stupidly bided by de fensive posture for 11 years,” he noted. “In 1965 we began to carry the war to the enemy, gingerly.” Trager outlined the United States in volvement in Southeast Asia beginning in 1813 with the landing of the first mis sionary at Rangoon, Burma. At this time, he noted, the United States had a rather “distant outlook.” When other nations began colonizing, “most Southeast Asians wanted to be free, to be independent,” he said As a result, Viet Nam and Indonesia were forced to fight to establish independent states and were not successful until prior to World War II. After World War II, he said, the Com munists began making plans for revolu tions, wars by proxy and training cadres. The Communists wanted “wars of national liberation” directed against the people in order to indoctrinate Communism. At the Geneva Conference in 1954 “the state of Viet Nam proposed there should be a national election in both parts of Viet Nam.” Russia, France and Hanoi voted against the proposal, he said. “We didn’t take them seriously enough,” said Trager. “It’s taken us 11 years to make up our mind in Viet Nam.” Questioned as to what kind of world he believed would exist if hostilities con tinue between the United States and China, Trager replied “terrible.” He added, “How ever, I don’t believe in the inevitability of war. We’re not asking China to give back anything they have, only to leave South east Asians alone.” KEYNOTE SPEAKER MAKES POINT Dr. David Wurfel, associate professor of political science at the University of Missouri, emphasizes a point during his address at SCONA XI opening session Wednesday. Canadian Student Traveled Farther For Conference By GERALD GARCIA Managing Editor The only noise that could be heard in Room 320 of the Memo rial Student Center late Tuesday afternoon was the shower run ning. Suddenly, a deep, husky voice drowned out the running water and shouted, “I will be with you in a minute.” The voice belonged to Michael B. Gurstein, student at the Uni versity of Saskatchewan, in Sas katoon, Canada, who more than likely traveled the greatest dis tance to attend the eleventh Student Conference On National Affairs, scheduled to run until Saturday here. Gurstein was accompanied to the conference by Keith William Lowe, also from the Canadian university, who was roaming in the MSC during a break in the conference. “Man, that is just what I needed,” Gurstein explained as he stepped out of the shower. The pair arrived in College Station early Tuesday afternoon after a two-day trip from Saska toon, site of the university. They flew to the conference, but it was no fault of the airlines that it took two days to arrive. “We wanted to do a little sightseeing in Dallas — that is why it took longer to get here,” Gurstein said. However, the boys did have to make three transfers before arriving here. Gurstein is presently taking honor courses at the university which has no semester plan. Students in Canadian colleges and universities attend from September to April and take a maximum of five courses. Since it only takes 15 credits to receive a B. S. degree, students can finish college in three years, he said. “But I still think our method —of no semester—is harder be cause we only take one test for each course—in April—and if we bust it we have to take the course over,” Gurstein said. Gurstein has received his B.S. degree and is taking honor courses—similar to the United States method of taking graduate work—for credit toward a mast er’s degree. The 21-year old student thinks SCONA is a good thing. “It brings students from every where to discuss world problems and it helps students understand the problems better,” he said. Concerning relations between Canada and the United States, the Canadian student claims Canada is too Americanized—the economic system more than any thing. “Take the Federal Reserve System decision the other day to raise interest rate. Just because the United States did it Cana dian banks had to follow suit. Gurstein said since Canadian economy is so closely patterned after the United States, Canada’s economy is described as: “When American economy sneezes, Can ada’s economy catches pneumo nia.” The warm weather here is something new to Gurstein—even though he has been in Texas once before. The temperature in Saskatoon was a “mild” 25 degrees above zero, Mike said. He considers that mild since he has witnessed many 30 degrees below zero readings at this time of the year in his hometown. The coldest temperature Gur stein has been in was a minus 54 a few years ago. Maybe the cold Canadian weather gave Mike his deepi, husky voice. SCONA Event Schedule THURSDAY 3- 3:45 p.m. Review, Corps of Cadets (Parade Ground across from MSC) 4- 5 p.m. Continuation of Third-Round Table Meeting (optional) 6-7 p.m. Texas-Style Barbecue (DeWare Fieldhouse) 8-10 p.m. Plenary Session (Third Address, Panel Discussion) MSC Ballroom Reception following address (Assembly and Birch Rooms) Texas A&M University Singing Cadets Christmas Concert (Main Lounge, MSC) FRIDAY 7:30-8:30 a.m. Coffee and Informal Discussion (Serpentine Lounge) 8:30-11:45 a.m. Fourth Round-Table Meeting 12:15-1:15 p.m. Luncheon (Duncan Dining Hall) 2-4:30 p.m. Fifth Round-Table Meeting 6-7:30 p.m. Buffet Supper (MSC Ballroom) 8-10 p.m. Plenary Session (Fourth Address) MSC Ballroom Reception following address (Assembly and Birch Rooms) Transportation Mixup Delays Tech Delegates By LANI PRESSWOOD It finally happened. The pre cision timing and organization which has become a SCONA trademark momentarily broke down. The breakdown occurred dur ing the wee hours of Wednesday morning, 4:45 a.m. to be exact. At almost precisely that hour, a pair of unsuspecting delegates from Texas Tech descended from a train at the railway station — in Caldwell. Caldwell is as close to the A&M campus as their stream liner stopped. They knew that. The SCONA officials knew that. But each thought the other group had arranged transportation from the station. Weary from the long haul from West Texas, the pair of dele gates were ready to step into a car they had expected to be wait ing to wing them to the A&M campus. However, it didn’t take long for them to see what the situation really was. No car. layover. Visions of honest-to- goodness beds likely danced in their heads as the car sped to ward College Station. Upon arrival though, they found out their rooms weren’t available yet. They promptly took care of this problem in im perfect but resourceful style by sleeping in the MSC lobby until they received their room keys at 11:30 a.m. Now that they’re finally here, what do they think of SCONA XI so far? “The program material looks good, the speakers look good, and the material is relevant and very interesting,” answered Hollings worth. “I’m looking forward to it, I think it’s going to be very worthwhile.” Hickey, an official in Tech’s Model United Nations operation, views his SCONA visit as an aid in mapping a stronger MUN there in the future. He foresees the possibility of a broader MUN at Tech, one in which, as in the SCONA setup, delegates from “We checked, but there were other schools will be invited, no cabs or buses in Caldwell,” re- Hickey calls Texas Tech “a lated Roger Hollingsworth, one big, growing school, with rising of the stranded delegates. academic standards.” He sees “Or rent-a-cars,” his partner lack of student interest in cam- Chris Hickey tossed in. pus issues and a weak editorial So, the two Red Raiders im- policy by the student newspaper, mediately proceeded to make use The Toreador, as two areas in of the telephone connections be- which Tech needs to improve, tween Caldwell and College Sta- “Tech has a friendly atmos- tion. After calls to several phere,” Hickey continued, “and I places, they finally reached some- think we share that with A&M one who knew what the score was and what to do about it. A little after 8 a.m. transpor tation arrived in the form of a driver named Francis — Hol- because I’ve noticed it around here, too. It gives you a warm feeling when you’re spoken to on another campus.” SCONA runs through Satur- lingsworth calls him St. Francis” day and the two Tech represent- — and the three-hour wait in atives will then join 191 other Caldwell came to an end. They visiting delegates in heading had whiled away the time brush- back to their own schools, ing up on this year’s SCONA In light of their less than topic, Southeast Asia. smooth train-and-car trip to get The pair left Lubbock at 7 here, how does the pair plan to p.m. Tuesday night and spent return to Lubbock? nearly ten hours on the train be- The reply comes quickly: “We fore their unscheduled three-hour hope to fly back.” DELEGATES PARTICIPATE IN ROUNDTABLE SESSION SGONA XI delegates John E. Hughes of west Texas State College ponder ideas pre- Mississippi State, David Stiles of Texas sented during opening Roundtable discus- A&M and Miss Sally L. Jackson of South- sions Wednesday afternoon.